Community, and the Problem with Ironic Sexism
by thethreepennyguignol
Look, I guess I should set one thing straight here, before I begin- I don’t think Community as a show is inherently sexist. Dam Harmon, the man behind the cult-smash sitcom, has made an express effort to hire female writers and create interesting, well-rounded women characters who get just as much respect and screentime as their male counterparts. With an ensemble cast as big as Community’s in it’s heyday (seasons one through three, and I’ll hear no different), it was and still is legitimately awesome to see the strong central female cast taken as seriously as they were, as likely to be cracking the joke as the butt of it. So let’s get that out of the way.
But I was rewatching the show over the last few weeks (I’m back at university, any sort of college-based comedy is a must to float me through the next few months alive, and apparently all I write about now is sexism in sitcoms), and something jumped out at me a few times across the show’s run. And that’s it’s use of ironic (or hipster, depending on what article you read first) sexism.
Ironic sexism is basically when the writers know they’re being sexist, and the audience knows the writers are being sexist, and the joke stems from the fact that everyone is in on the fact that this would be a horrible way to treat women in real life. Let’s take a couple of examples that jumped out at me- the first was in a Christmas episode, where Annie (played by Allison Brie) sings a parody of the dumb sexy-baby-voice tunes meant to appeal to men with fetishes I’d rather not consider, presumably:
And yeah, this is a funny scene. Don’t get me wrong. I like the way they dismantled the ridiculousness of the woman forced to prance around downplaying her intelligence to further appeal to men. But it’s still Allison Brie prancing around and bending over in a little dress. We’re still being invited to objectify her, even if we are all in on the funny joke. Take a look at these scenes, which are basically the same thing twice:
Woo, we’re so enlightened that we can ogle women doing stereotypically sexy things- in an enlightened and non-sexist way! I understand what tropes they’re going after here, by presenting a stupidly overboard version of those tropes, but it’s hard to see two conventionally attractive young women straddling each other while covered in oil and see it as a breakthrough. And, of course, this kind of stuff isn’t contained to Community. It’s in advertising, where women and men are posed outrageously sexily- in a tongue-in-cheek way! It’s on social media, where people order women they disagree with to make them a sandwhich, bitch- but it’s only because they’re totally enlightened and we live in a post-sexist society anyway, right?
Look, I get that they’re trying to critique the ridiculousness of these kinds of tropes here, but is simply regurgitating a trope actually providing a critique of it? I’m genuinely asking. I think it depends n the circumstance, the intention, and lots and lots of other things, but when it comes down to it, simply producing a replica of sexism and calling it funny assumes that everyone observing it is going to understand that that’s a ridiculous or unacceptable way to treat the person in question. But, you know, that’s kind of a gamble when objectifying women in the media (and more broadly in society) in a non-ironic way (WHY HELLO THERE GAME OF THRONES) is so completely accepted, so normalised. I know a bunch of people who see the joke in the above Community scenes, but still appreciate the chance to ogle the actresses in question, so while those scenes have successfully made the point they wanted to make, they’d sort of undermined themselves. I guess what I’m saying is that I don’t think you can critique a problematic trope while you’re adding to it, and doubly so when you’re using it as an excuse to stick two of your leading women in fantasy scenarios and outfits for the audience to gawk act. But what’s your take on it?
I am really glad to read your thoughts on this. I did a search online to see if I wasn’t the only one feeling awful about the “Ironic sexism”, as you so aptly named it, in this show. I was watching it with my boyfriend last night, who loves the show and wanted me to see it, which I only ever watched one or two episodes ages ago. And he’s obsessed with it. And I consider him to be a very well-rounded guy who doesn’t behave in sexist ways. A real gentleman. But watching it with him, I had to stop it several times to just call out what was glaringly obvious to me, but hidden under the guise of irony and humor. I had to help my guy understand that by hiding all this misogyny under the cloak of humor, the result is everyone is laughing and thus de facto accepting the bad behavior as ok. It just felt real awful to sit through a show and not point out what was going on. Thank you for writing this.
Really interesting post.
As I guy, I realise much much more now how uncomfortable these scenes are and clearly sexist, even if unintentionally.
I remember watching a tv programme about how bad the 1960s/70s tvshows were for sexism, but I think even programmes ten years ago are looking bad now in parts. The idea of the male gaze is interesting and I definitely think that plays a part in this clips
Im a guy and ive been watching Community on Netflix through season 2 now. I’ve really been struggling with it. I really adore aspects of the show (Troy and Abed are incredible) but its so hard to see past what id call sexism in the show. There is so much about the show that fit whats your describing, on one level ironic and a criticism, but more apparently just that very thing its criticizing itself. The only thing it has going for it is that its pretty equally brutal across the board, but i cant help but feel the women get the short end of the stick. A lot of classic sexist tropes seem to come out and i can see them as ironic if i try hard, but that isnt how they feel. Another thing is Jeff. Hes such an asshole, but because hes an attractivish confident white guy everyone automatically listens to whatever he says? I get that thats a joke in itself, but its also not, because its a major premise of the show. Anyway, ive been searching for similar opinions and havent found anything so it was nice to read your post.
I highly highly appreciate this! I feel so validated; I needed to know that I was not the only person thinking this, and it makes me feel that much more hopeful about humanity. THANK YOU.
25 yo, straight dude here. – in case someone thinks this only bothers women.
For the past three weeks, I’ve been watching the series for the first time in my life,and let me tell you, I had to Google this shit because I am really confused: do I absolutely LOVE community?, or maybe… I both love, and hate community?; this particular problem you are describing is so evident that I think I’m still watching just to wait for a moment in which all of it is addressed and corrected, so the show can go on without having to be so “obviously ironic” about harsh sexism.
I’m in season two now, and I don’t really know what to make of this show. I love the characters (I even love to hate a certain old man), but this is really uncomfortable.
I hope my English is ok-ish. Greetings from México.
Yes, that bothered me too. What I found even more insidious, however, is that we have a character who is always very much aware of it (Britta), yet every time she criticizes sexualization of women she ends up in the wrong, ridiculed, or failing because of it. Her discomfort with sexualization of women is one of the things that make her a “buzzkill”, apparently.
Examples off the top of my head:
Annie/Britta bickering and fighting in oil in S1
Britta criticizing Annie’s costume in S6 during the Chang sci-fi movie
The running joke of Britta’s Halloween costumes
etc.
I’m a cis dude watching the first season and this show gives me the creeps. Some of it is so funny though, that I just kept telling myself to stop being so uberwoke. After reading your text and the comments here I can breathe a sigh of relief, know that I’m not crazy, and just stop watching altogether. Thank you!